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My dad and I have been having a debate about which car would handle better - a 240SX with modified suspension or a Z32 with modified suspension. I say it's the 240 because it's lighter and has a shorter wheelbasse. He says it's the Z because of the longer wheelbase.

We've been arguing about it and I think the perfect handling configuration would be all four wheels in a square - like on a go-kart. He thinks it'd be a longer car, like LeMans or CART cars. What's the right answer?
 
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A Suburban with modified suspension due to longest wheel base and 4wd and aero enhancing roof racks.



Post Edited (Oct 30, 8:45pm)
 
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#3 ·
well I wouldn't go that far - a suburban would have terrible weight distribution and a high center of gravity.

the best would be a long wheel base but short overall length - so the least amount of overhang.

Think about it - all the weight in front of the front axle is gonna be on the front axle, and actually lift weight off the rear axle. Any weight behind the rear axle puts all of its weight on tha axle and lifts up on the front. Any weight in between the axles is gonna be split between the axles (although not perfectly in half, but still better than the alternative).

I'm not sure the actual wheelbase matters as much as the weight distribution, but I do know overhang is very imporant.
 
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#7 ·
the real anwser is the 240sx i own a 95, 240sx and a 91 300zx NT, lets look at it from stock perspectives the 240 is a far better car when it comes to supension, thats whay its a top if not the top drift car, plus the 300 rear wheels turn they ARE NOT stationary, that also plays a differnt effect on the way it handels (check owner manual for details on 300 rear wheel drive system)
 
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#8 ·
Hicas can be eliminated easy, and you can make anything drift like a pro

Perfect example
 
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ICEMAN, that's f***ing insane! Exactly the type of driver I have nightmares about seeing on the freeway. I was actually hoping he hit that semi so I could see the wreck.
 
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#10 ·
Handling is very general terminology. For high speed cornering and stabability, the z32 is superior without arguement. For lowspeed turns I'd say it is even, and I don't think it's possible to conclude one superior over the other in that area. There are many many factors involved besides wheelbase and weight, but longer wheelbase has been accepted as better for handling all around. The 2+2 z was used as the racecar in its era for that reason. There are no sports cars with high roofs or short wheelbases that were successful.. corvette, all the japanese supercars, all lambos, all ferraris, even the 240, 260, and 280z's of the past have longer wheelbases if you compare it to their overall size. The 240 is probably easier to turn in and stop with limited funds however compared to the z32, so it's just what your needs are.
 
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#11 ·
Z32 wins hands down. Z32 is harder to harness its full capabilities, but they far exceed the 240sx. The 240sx is such an excellent drifter because its so easy to drive. Honestly, you feel like pro driving in one of those things.

Mod the Z32.
 
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#12 ·
For the $7000 it takes to get your TT engine in the car my 240 will be built to 500rwhp (~2400lbs.) and have a fresh coat of Daytona Blue. That's why I chose to do that car instead of the Z. I just can't afford to get anywhere on the Z!
 
#13 ·
Boo. You'll regret not tt-ing the Z. Instead you'll have an unstable, whiny 4-cylinder, in a car that looks nothing like the Z.
 
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The whiney 4 cylinder will rev 2000rpm higher than the TTZ. Soooo... Let's see, a 500rwhp 2000lbs car that looks bad and a beautiful Z for cruising. Touring & racing, no in between. I love it!

What's the big deal? I'm keeping the Z! Although I'm starting to hate this particular one. It's weird how all the little things can drag down the whole picture.
 
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Just all the little stuff. The door jambs weren't painted with the car and they don't match and are all scratched up. There's overspray everywhere from multiple paint jobs. The engine bay is dirty as **** but can't be cleaned any better than it is without pressurized water, and I'm not going that route. There are miscellaneous scratches and blemishes all over the interior. Everything inside the car from the seats back is scratched all to ****. It leaks even with new weatherstripping. Both seats are getting rickety and have rips in the bolsters.

And to top all that off, I'm starting to get hesitation issues. If I TT swapped to get rid of that problem, then I'd still have to deal with all the other blemishes. I wish I could just start over with a better platform.
 
#19 ·
Well when it all comes down to the end... The 300zx out performs the 240sx in every aspect (except drifting)
 
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#20 ·
A 240sx is the perfect choice for you.

And they are to be taken seriously.

Cause once you give it the engine it deserves(SR20DET) youve got yourselfe a sil-eighty

I'm also gona have a 240sx project, and there is no other engine id swap in there than the SR20 :)

So best of luck and get ready to fly away ;)



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#21 ·
Luke, the Z requires MUCH more money to outpreform the 240SX, which is the only reason I'm doing the 240.

RedDragon - You're wayyy right that these cars are to be taken seriously. I don't really see how it can be argued. And mine will of course be getting the SR20. I really wanted an RB25DET because of power potential (700hp on stock bottom end), but it's heavier and would throw off weight distribution. 500 is enough anyway.
 
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