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I have a bone to pick with Dannys Datsun. I'm sure most of you know that Danny is trying to sell his buisness. You may not know that if that doesn't happen by Dec 31st, all his parts and cars will be going to the scrap yard. There is a post in the classifieds that sounds almost as a threat. He has already made several trips to scrap parts and I have a HUGE problem with this.

His only concern seems to be that he wont have the parts he may need in the future. What about the other thousands of people that are going to need parts? He took it upon himself to by up all these parts for a buisness and now decides he doesn't want to do it anymore. Since he took the responsibility to buy who knows what percentage of parts availible, that puts the responsability of taking care of those parts on him. Not to send them to a scrap yard to be melted down and become part of the next p.o.s. GM built. There are thousands of parts, some that you cant get anywhere else but from him or a very rare junk yard, that are about to be destroyed. And it's not just part. It's perfectly good shells and cars. If it's so important to get rid of parts, why not have a blowout sale before taking them to a scrap yard? Liquidate the buisness. Or even just give them away to people who will pay for shipping cost. Right now his prices don't seem to be lower at all.

I don't mean this to be just a bitch session at Danny. I know alot of people who have dealt with him and been extremely happy with his help. His buisness was a great idea and made finding old parts alot easier. I simply hope something could be done. These parts and cars need to be saved. If I had the means or the money i would gladly bring all those parts to my place and make them availible to anyone who needed them. Just don't junk perfectly good Z parts that are getting harder to find every day!

Kabel
 
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i second that
 
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#3 ·
Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with Danny's Datsun but http://oem-surplus.com/nwp/index.htm seems to be doing the same thing.
If you hover long enough, a pop up window will come up saying the exact same thing as what your saying Danny's is doing(unless they're the same people)
Well unless some Z shop wants to buy up his lot and can afford to do so, what can he do? Its a business and he needs to make money. How can he give the parts away? He paid for them and needs to recoupe something. It is a shame though to scrap them. Its a tough situation. The OEM guy was saying he had a few offers to buy up the lot but nothing binding last time I spoketo him.
OEM's prices for new oem Nissan seem reasonable. I picked up an a/c compressor for my zx with clutch for 175 plus $25 shipping. rebuilds are going for more.
 
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I completely agree with Kabel... I believe that Kabel fully understands that Danny has a business to run and of course wants to make a profit, however Danny did take it upon himself to buy up 1000's of parts and who knows how many cars. All Kabel is trying to say is he does not believe that it is right to buy up all these parts and then decide not to continue the business and just scrap all of these parts. These parts are not easy to come by and I am sure that there are many owners and even future owners out there that could use these parts. I know a lot of people that have a passion for these zcars and I think all Kabel is trying to say is he wishes there is something we could do as aS z enthusiest to save these parts and not send them for SCRAP!

Nick
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Danny most likely bought all those parts from other vendors who were sending the stuff to the scrap yard. By doing that he gave us another few years of parts availability. I've probably purchased about $5,000 worth of parts over the years from Danny and have been grateful for the service he's provided.

Last I looked this was still America and a person can do whatever they want with the property they own. Danny doesn't owe you, me, or the Datsun world anything and whining about this on a message board doesn't accomplish much. If its so important, break out your wallets.
 
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#6 ·
at least for the sake of the future of older z cars offer the parts at the same price you would get for them as scrap at the last minute just to help the zcar community before quiting entirely. i can't blame him for trying to recoup some of his expense but if all else fails at least offer them for scrap price before actually scraping.
 
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I believe part of the problem is a new law that has or is gong into affect about junk yard cars in Oregon. I think he is literally forced into getting rid of them.
 
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As well, he's repeatedly offered to anyone who wants to buy him out to contact him. But nobody's been stepping up to bat on it, so he has to do something. Maybe instead of complaining that it'll be gone, get all the z-car clubs together to finance a buy-out of the business and find a spot of land that they can be stored on. Have that club have someone who can be responsible for the continued pulling of parts and sales of the stuff. Then there's only labor costs involved and everybody wins. Or set a flat rate for each part and have the proceeds go toward sponsoring a couple z-car rallys each year.

Just a thought
 
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Quite a few people tossed the idea around taking his inventory but the costs associated with moving it all outweighed the profits etc.. Its not cheap to move that many dismantled cars and parts even a short distance.
 
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I just ordered a bunch of parts from him to have in reserve. He gave me a great price too. Stop whinning and buy some parts. It's a junk yard, in order to make his money back he has to scrap out some of the cars. If no one buys them he can't just sit on them until you all decide to grace him with your money. He has to survive too. Buy up the parts, he is making great package deals right now. He wants them gone and isn't looking to make a killing on any of it.
 
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p.o.s. GM

How dare you, please edit (ford)
You need to look good since numbers are limited for junkyard heaven..n I think Danny is going that way


Don't cry for me USA (Datsun)
 
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#13 ·
NO, DON'T THROW THEM OUT. I live in R.I. and have a vacant mobile home I use for storage, plenty of room, If I can be of assistance, not looking for freebies, just willing to help if I can.
 
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After reading bronctailz's post I called OEM because I'm needing seat covers. Norman says he has a couple of folks that might be interested in his inventory. Think I'm going to have to eat a tree and crap the money just to be sure I have them. Hopefully the Danny can find a buyer. The mad scramble is on. Good luck to all.
 
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I strongly disagree. I visited Danny in September when we drive through Roseburg and I feel for the guy. He looks to be in his 50s, he just wants a change of lifestyle, and he's done everything he can think of to unload the parts on someone. What do you expect him to do? Stay in business till he's 100 just so you can buy a $5 part at your convenience? If I was Danny and read these posts (at least the critical ones), I'd close the doors tomorrow and tell all of you to go to ****.....MHO.
 
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I really don't understand some people. Either they don't read or they just don't pay attention. The whole point of the post is that i really don't want to see thousands of perfectly good Z parts that are not made any more to be scrapped. I simple stated that I wish something could be done. And I will say this for the second time...i do not have the money or the means to move the parts myself but would gladly store them here just to keep them availible to the Z community. I have space to store all of it maybe three times over and would gladly keep them here and ship parts when needed free of charge just to keep them availible. Since I first heard about this, I have personaly been contacting people trying to come up with a way to deal with this. So stop telling me to break out my wallet and by the buisness.

And I will say this agian as well...what Danny has done for everyone has been awesome. I know tons of people who have been happy with his service. However, i strongly believe this can be handled better and done withought scrapping parts. The prices that I have been hearing don"t seem that helpful. And no, i do not mean by staying open forever just so I have access to a part. I am sorry if I sound harsh or whinny. Forgive me if I thought that people in the Z community might want to discuss what i see as a huge problem and ways that may help it. The last I checked, the whole point of this forum was to be able to do just that.

Thanks BronctailZ, I had not heard about oem-surplus yet.

Kabel
 
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Kabel, if that was what you were trying to convey in your first message, I appologize for not seeing it. I still don't but your distraught did shine through. The basic idea is that he should not be criticized because he decided that it's time to throw in the towel. Danny's been asking, almost begging for someone to carry on and continue servicing the Z community since the spring. With half a year going by and still no takers, Danny is still continuing to serve us Zedders until the end of the year and giving deals to us all while he can. You cannot be annoyed with or blame the guy for wanting something different out of life, and that's exactly what you conveyed.

To be sad to see change is normal. To lament it is normal. To vent your frustration toward a person is .. well.. personal. Not good form if the person's done nothing to deserve it, but has done a lot to earn a "thank you" from the community for time served and service done.
 
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what about eBay sales? I have never bought anything from Danny but maybe thats because everything I need are from eBay sellers for the most part. Im sure if he expanded his marketing better this could buy us time and still make him money.
 
#20 ·
What's so confusing about, "Danny wants to get out of the business!"?

He's tired of stripping parts off the cars, cleaning them up, packaging, and shipping. Selling stuff on eBay, offering super low prices, etc. means he still has to strip the parts, clean, package, and ship. What about that don't you guys understand?
 
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#21 ·
hi, i'm danny, life is good, if any interested in a package deal( bring own 18 wheeler, fork lift, Large first aid kit etc) i'll take cash, gold, cabins, golf/fish/hunting equip. as partial payment.
Getting old n for the ones that think old means grumpy: f....o!
 
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#22 ·
Got To Agree with John Coffee and Brainn 510

The guy has as his perogative to do WTF he wants with his parts.

What the people lamenting the demise of these parts simply fail to understand is that, as Briann 510 has tyouched upon, is once the GOVERNMENT GETS INVOLVED in these types of affairs, the business owner has little choice.

10 Years ago, I watched a Corvair Collector with 110+ cars situated on Mission Boulevard (Junkyard Row) get turned in to code enforcement because if 'blight'.

In reality, he had a 99 year lease on a corner lot that when he leased it 30 years prior was only worth $200 a month. And for the next 30 years the guy (an empolyee of an Aircraft Company) bought on average 3 or four Corvairs from people...cheap. Some ran, some didn't. But by sheer numbers he had over 100 cars by the time he retired, with the plan of then parting them out and restoring one car a year till he couldn't do it any longer. The guy was in his 50's, and for someone in his 30's to have that kind of insight... But times changed and that same lot was worth thousands a month then...but it was his stoarge lot, and someone didn't like that so a call to the government about 'blight'---and remember his NEIGHBORS were JUNKYARDS! He wasn't selling parts, he wasn't really doing any kind of business, it was just where he decided to store his retirement projects until he got to the point of actually having time to do them!!!

Anyway, he came to his lot one day to find the tow trucks hauling away his cars, after they had cut the locks off!

Injunctions and legal action followed, as well as him scrambling to move the cars to places where they could not be 'attacked'...but for his whole operation he wanted a mere $100K. Buy him out, lock stock and barrel.

HE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO PIECEMEAL THEM OUT ONE AT A TIME. Each of the cars in the market at the time would EASILY have fetched $1000 simply from people back east wanting desert chassis with no rust in them. I have never seen so many convertiles and turbo oddity cars...

But there were NO TAKERS for the whole lot, and that is how he had to sell it because people would cherry-pick his litter, and leave him with the least desirable bits...something that he would have to scrap anyway.

Such is the case here: You either got to take it all and UNBURDEN HIM, or buy parts in bulk because they are on the way to the scrapyard. My bet is that some governmental bureaucrat in the EPA, DEQ, or maybe even Code Enforcement has laid a load of compliance infractions on him and he simply doesn't want to put up with the B.S. any longer. They start fines after a certian date, and it's simply easier to just junk it than start paying $10,000 a week to warehouse them as lowballers and bottom-feeders pick at the bones at the rate of $400 a day with 60 hours worth of packaging and shipping time on top of it. It's one thing if your inventory can be floored for FREE. But the BSTP ratio comes in to play, and once the BS gets higher than the "To Pay" side of the equation it's time to just shut er down and junk it. Why junk it? Because selling it will go slooooowly, and nobody is independently wealthy and will put up seven containers and semis to come pick up cars and transport them even a few miles much less across the country!!! Containers only hold 6 cars each, guys. Do the math!

HE'S GIVING YOU THE COURTESY OF TELLING YOU THEIR FATE IF YOU DON'T GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND DO SOMETHING!

But to decry the state he has been put in by LEGISLATIVE FIAT (research Briann's contention further and realize that junkyards are going to be a VERY regulated business in many parts of the west, boys and girls!!!) is simply poor form.

Instead of being upset that these cars are being FORCED to the crusher through environmental laws that dictate unreasonable recordkeeping and containment measures simply to keep a guy from being fined into bankruptcy, be upset at the GOVERNMENT that puts the poor ******* into the situation in the first place!

I have said this before, the people who whine about this kind of stuff simply have absolutely NO GRASP WHATSOEVER on what kind of punitive governmental regulations insinuate through a business owner's daily life! And by transferrence, YOUR OWN LIFE!

While I see it as lamentable that these cars will go to scrap, I will choose to put my ire where it belongs: the laws that are setting up this kind of waste in almost every state of the union.

Read the California Vehicle Code boys and girls, "PARTS CARS" are ILLEGAL!

As it sits, right now relatively complete cars will fetch around $150 to $200 in scrap value. If they have a scrap dealer willing to come TAKE the cars and STILL pay that amount of money for his total inventory of cars (lets say 100 cars) that means $15-20K in CASH to him for the elimination of a headache...

Anybody here going to buck up SCRAP VALUE for the cars? If not, the old axiom of 'put up or shut up' comes to mind.

And keep in mind boys and girls, this is coming from someone in the Corvair Guy Mold: I got over 30 out back right now...and just doing the math for the scrap value it becomes an EASY choice if the Code Enforcement people want to nail me with a 60 day Abatement Paper! Put some credit card debt to some 40 footers, strip what I can for my own use in the time available, and then call the scrap man because bottom feeders and lowballers aren't coming to my rescue. They are takers plain and simple, and that's all they will do: TAKE.

I can see exactly where Danny is coming from...most others in the business will as well, I bet!
 
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#23 ·
And an 'Egads'

Save for the wonderful barn, his backyard could be mine!

"There but for the Grace of God Go I!"

My thoughts is there is more than retirement at work here. Curiously the retirement thread was not available for viewing any longer. Must have been moderated out...
 
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#24 ·
Does anyone know what he's asking for the business? I'd love to own a business like that but that's not feasible right now. Doing something you really enjoy and Oregon looks pretty nice to me,maybe in my next life.
Joe
 
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