If its an auto then no you cant roll start it. Are you getting spark to the coil and the plugs? If the starter just "whizzes" that does not mean its not engaging.

Please from now on make sure you use proper english when typing your questions with propper puncuation.

 

duh , i didnt know about the automatic not being able to roll start. i will try to use proper english and punctuation mr. webster

 

your welcome, i was being nice compared to some on here.

Where do you live some one might live by you and can probably help out

 

If the bendix kicks out with the starter off the engine but when installed just whizzes, it would indicate either the gear on the starter is dammaged or the ring gear on the flywheel of the engine is dammaged. Try pushing the car forward in gear a foot to see if the starter will now spin the engine with the gear moved to a new position.

There were no shims on the starter when you took it out, correct? (making sure the starter gear is reaching the depth it is supposed to reach).

 

Flywheel thing. Norm K "The engine TENDS to stop at the same position, more than not. Therefore..."

 

And yes, if you engine was running well before, it is not only possible to push start a standard shift ZX, but easy. I've done it on level paved ground using only one foot, with me sitting in the seat. Depending on the source, it is recommended to use 2nd gear when push starting, but I've done it using 1st and 2nd gear, with little difference in the result. With the tranny in neutral (if you are by yourself with no help) and key in RUN position, push as fast as you can, jump in clutch it and shift to your gear of choice, and pop the clutch up quick, being ready to push it down again quick if the engine fires off and runs. I did this periodically during the 50 miles it took to get my 83Turbo home from the seller's house. I was not used to the very sensitive clutch, and kept killing it, and the ignition switch was not working right, making it hard to engage the starter.

Have you tried applying +12 volts directly to the starter solenoid? Sometimes ignition switches can be restricting the volt/amps going to the solenoid, which can make it spin without engaging the flywheel. Get an 8 gauge length of wire, clamp one end to the battery positive post, and with the tranny again in neutral, try just quickly touching the other end of the wire to the same threaded stud that the ignition switch wire is attached to. Doing so should make the starter engage and crank the engine without starting it, unless you also put the key to RUN. If you get good cranking that way, then you have a wiring problem other than the starter. TonyD has posted many times about adding a Ford Starter Relay to eliminate the voltage drops in some cars, to get consistent strong starter action. Do a SEARCH about it, if my suggestion of the external wire helps your starter to work.

 

problem solved by replacing starter. thanks for all the advice