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It is sickening to see what gets wasted when time expires on cars in the junk yards here in California. I have seen what some of the east coast guys are starting with when they commence a ground up resto. What gets sent to the crushing mechine here is, most often, a much better car. All the undercarriage stuff is usually easy to remove without a major battle with rust and when you remove a piece it is stiil good! I don't have the means or the space to save the stuff, but if some of you guys that have rusted out projects and need replacements let me know. I can look arround or keep my eyes open for what you need. Last week I saw a perfectly good 72 or 73 chassis fall into oblivian. The battery tray and the spare tire areas weren't even rusted. The door, fender, and hood were in decent shape. I know it wouldn't be cheap to have this stuff shipped to where ever you are. I was thinking you guys must spend alot of time and money getting some of your projects up to the condition of what is being thrown out here and may be worthwhile for you. My name is Paul. email me and I'll get back to you. [email protected]
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Stuff like that happens, our 68 4 door catalina went to that fate long ago and I miss it like a brother.
i go to the junk yard auction all the time. I acually got my driving Z from a guy who bought it from there. the beauty is that its a clear title. Unlike most people that think they know; not everything is junk that ends up there. the dude i got it from had to fix a couple things under the hood and he changed the clutch.

all it needs now is paint and maybe some newer rubbers on 4 corners but it runs and does fine as my daily driver.
yeah i see this kind of thing all the time out here in NC. as much as i like going to the junk yard and having z cars available to get parts from, i hate seeing them just sitting there, wrecked, rusted, neglected or on their way to the crusher. i have also seen some pretty nice z's in the yard, with all of their parts. it's almost like, they just weren't wanted anymore so the owners just towed them to the salvage yard.
just a few weeks ago, i was allowed the opportunity to save a Z from getting crushed. I just wanted the radio out of it but is was next on the kill list and the owners said if i wanted it saved, i should mark it "save" so i went out there and did just that... with a big bright yellow marker. most junk yards don't give a **** about old z's or customers. i wish there was a way we could save more, you know like a Z foundation or something. **** if i had a big enough yard and a big old garage i would salvage as many old Z's as i could get my hands on.
my hats off to you Madison. I'm glad I am not the only one who feels sick when I see neglected Z cars. I also feel the same when I see other old cars as well...

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I was lucky with one I went to for awhile they had 2 280ZXT 2+2 GLs and 3 300ZXs I could get cool stuff out of and I got a few deals that where perfect beacuse the yard workers knew that we come 40miles or so to get measly little parts. Sadly they changed hands to some jerkov who charges full price and crushes in 60days instead of 90+.
That was a yard/shop in New England which had over 300 Zs but after a bad episode with a few clients the owner not only crushed all the cars, he stuffed them with new, in the box OEM parts! This was back in the mid-90s.
About 3 years before I started to refurbish my 73, a guy comes to one of my garage sales and buys all kinds of stuff. He spotted the Z in the back room and asked if I needed any parts. I said no as everything was there. He said good, cause he had just crushed 22 of them the week before.

Bonzi Lon
I saw 6 washed away in the Katrina flood. This guy had just been sitting on them, wouldn't sell. He's in no shape physically or finacially to do anything with them. He actually really pissed me off.

If you can find a clean 72 or even 77/78's let me know. I live in NC like Bonfire and it's hard to get solid chassis' out here.
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yeah i see this kind of thing all the time out here in NC. as much as i like going to the junk yard and having z cars available to get parts from, i hate seeing them just sitting there, wrecked, rusted, neglected or on their way to the crusher. i have also seen some pretty nice z's in the yard, with all of their parts. it's almost like, they just weren't wanted anymore so the owners just towed them to the salvage yard.
just a few weeks ago, i was allowed the opportunity to save a Z from getting crushed. I just wanted the radio out of it but is was next on the kill list and the owners said if i wanted it saved, i should mark it "save" so i went out there and did just that... with a big bright yellow marker. most junk yards don't give a **** about old z's or customers. i wish there was a way we could save more, you know like a Z foundation or something. **** if i had a big enough yard and a big old garage i would salvage as many old Z's as i could get my hands on.
my hats off to you Madison. I'm glad I am not the only one who feels sick when I see neglected Z cars. I also feel the same when I see other old cars as well...

Bon
I'm with you all the way, Bon!
Our #13 car was going to a NC crusher with minor damage when it was rescued from a salvage
yard by the gentleman I bought it from in 1976. It needed a new hood, grille, and front bumper.
If you can get a copy of NissanSportMag issue #13 from last winter, you can see the car and
what would have been wasted. At the time of the photo shoot the car had just come out of
storage after about 30 years, and all it had in preparation for the shoot was a quick wash and
vacuum. Most everything else you see is original: paint, glass, seats, etc. As I tell folks, she
even has the original door dings, the original pits in the L/R of the back bumper from the exhaust,
the original "bullseye" in the windshield, and the original 2" gouge in the paint on the roof.

BTW there are several reasons I know of why Z Cars ended up in the scrap yard so readily,
based on being a 40-year owner of Z Cars myself, as well as on having been with Bob Sharp
back in the 1970s.
First, Datsun was butting heads with Mr. K regarding whether the Z was going to be a success
or not. Consequently they were very miserly about "provisioning" (pre-positioning repair parts
with dealers and regional warehouses) until they could get a read on how the car would sell.
Second, sales of the 240Z took off like the proverbial rocket, and it was impossible for the man-
ufacturer to keep up with the parts needed to enable the production line to keep up with the
demand, much less to provision parts in the U.S.
Third, the list price of a 240Z was $3526 when new. As most of you know, if the estimated cost
of repairs due to a collision exceeds a certain percentage of the value of the car, the insurance
company basically says "the heck with it, trash the car and we'll pay off." At $3526 it wasn't too
hard to exceed that percentage.
Fourth, as great a car as the 240Z was (and is), there were a few of what I would call "design
defects." Without getting into too much detail, to hold down the cost of production so the intro-
ductory price of the car could also be minimized, rather light gauge sheet metal was used. This,
along with certain points on the car which unfortunately were engineered in such a way as to
encourage rust-through, caused the early demise of many a Z Car. Especially in those areas
where road salt and chemicals are widely used (north and northeast), or where there is high
salt content in the air blown in from the sea (Gulf states in particular).
And fifth, while stock 240Z performance today is pretty ordinary, the Z was a sort of factory hot
rod in its day, and could handle quickly as well. If an owner (driver) wasn't reasonably capable
at managing such a vehicle, it could get out of control faster than the driver could respond. I
regret to say that I know of several Z's that were destroyed in this way, some with fatal
ramifications in so doing.

All of which is background to say, that I haven't seen a 240 or 260Z in a wrecking yard since
I can't remember when. And other than one leaf green 1972 I saw on the parkway about 6
years ago, I haven't seen any for literally decades, other than at Z Car shows and events, or
at owners' homes.

FWIW,................All Z Best,..................Rick (and Kathy, of course)
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