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Sparking Battery & Starter Issue

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Evening all, I did do a search of the forums but saw nothing that matched my issue...

I recently bought a 1976 280Z. It's in relatively decent shape with no significant rust, an incredibly clean (original!) interior, and is mostly mechanically sound.

The only issue I had when I first got it home was a slow starter. When I turned the key it would pause a moment then the starter would chug a few times before the motor fired up. Once running it idles great, drives great, shifts, etc. All electronics (except the clock) also function 100%.

The battery was 4.5 years old and the car had not been driven a lot over the past few years so I went and got a new one. When installing it, I went positive first then negative. When I connected the negative side it sparked like crazy and smoke came from the fusible link. I've changed enough car batteries in my lifetime to recognize this wasn't normal and in my research I found that this might be due to the starter going bad? Is there any validity to this? If so, when I swap the starter will it still spark like crazy during the initial connection?

Also, I've seen some fusible link upgrades, anyone have experience with those and their value?

I will add, that the majority of my wrenching experience is on cars made post 1984 (and that usually involved a laptop and fuel maps...), so I'm probably approaching my new Z with more caution than usual.
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Are you 100% sure you didn't connect it backwards???
Are you 100% sure you didn't connect it backwards???
I believe so, yes. Red to red and black to black. That's why I'm so confused...
Considering stock cables were both black, someone changed a battery cable out over the years. Positive should go to the fusible links - PERIOD. Negative should go to the cable that is grounded - PERIOD.
Any IPO (idiot previous owner) could have put the wrong color cable on.
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Considering stock cables were both black, someone changed a battery cable out over the years. Positive should go to the fusible links - PERIOD. Negative should go to the cable that is grounded - PERIOD.
Any IPO (idiot previous owner) could have put the wrong color cable on.
Good point. I say red to red because the battery post was anodized red, not the wire.
So I swapped the starter, replaced the battery cables, made sure everything was good and it fired right up. I went for a drive and after filling up with gas the car died at a red light. Getting it towed home. The ignition relay clicks, but that’s about it. Not sure what’s wrong with it at this point.
You could have damaged the fusible links when you hooked up the battery wrong and finished them off with the drive. The fusible links should be checked first. Next verify the fuel pump is still operating.
You could have damaged the fusible links when you hooked up the battery wrong and finished them off with the drive. The fusible links should be checked first. Next verify the fuel pump is still operating.
Yeah, I already ordered new links. When I say I swapped the cables I meant I totally put new ones in. They did not spark this time, but I also know they were properly installed because I did them, lol.

The deeper I get into this car, the more I’m discovering needs some work. It’s gonna be a fun project over the next several years.
I believe so, yes. Red to red and black to black. That's why I'm so confused...
General comment:
Before you trust "red to red" for battery cables on an older car, trace the cables and make sure someone didn't replace the negative cable with one that happens to have red insulation. Follow the positive cable and make sure it's connected to the starter.

I've seen replacement cables that reversed the normal color scheme. Sometimes people use what's available, not the cable they should use.
General comment:
Before you trust "red to red" for battery cables on an older car, trace the cables and make sure someone didn't replace the negative cable with one that happens to have red insulation. Follow the positive cable and make sure it's connected to the starter.

I've seen replacement cables that reversed the normal color scheme. Sometimes people use what's available, not the cable they should use.
Lesson learned, haha. New fusible links and the updated ignition relay should be here Thursday. If those don't work I'll be visiting the local mechanic.

On the plus side, new wiring!
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Additionally, be careful of the Green EFI Fusible Link (if still installed) attached to one of the two red #10 ga. cables running across the firewall. These two #10 ga cables attach to the Pos. (+) and (-) Battery cables and supply 12 V DC power to the EFI ECU and injectors via the dropping resistors .
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