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Hmmm, you sound like a friendly person to be around. :) He is not worth responding to again?!? That was a long reply for someone who is not even worth responding to again. Now.... just take a long deep breath, and relax. Im not one to talk though. I sometimes blow things out of proportion myself.
 

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OUCH mr expert z-man! A little overboard on your reply possibly?

OK, so maybe I jumped on the paranoia wagon a little too soon. But you are WAY out of line to go so far against me! It was wrong of me to call you a dork, you are obviously not. But you also know nothing about me or the quality of my craftsmanship. I am no expert like you but I have fun with my project, on the weekends, in my garage, and when it's finished I will be proud to drive it around, knowing that I built it myself.

So call me what you may. I have no trouble with who I am, or my station in life.

Finally and for the record: I apologize for the tone of my first post. So let's just drop it.

Steve Graber

> 4. I do not know how you managed to take my
> original comments about the Vela Rossa as
> being disparaging. I simply
> stated the one fact that it was a
> johnny-come-lately kit to the
> Ferrari GTO re-bodying kit effort that
> mainly started with Eagle Engineering's
> excellent kit design. I did not imply that
> John Washington's product was inferior or in
> any way without merit. You cooked that one
> up in your own dim witted paranoia. John's
> convertible interpretation is definitely a
> spin off the original Ferrari GTO and
> original Eagle kit design, but that does not
> make it inferior. Just an interpretation,
> which, by the way, I think looks very nice
> in it's own way.
> 5. I have met John Washington in person in
> the past and have had a very cordial
> conversation with him.
> Today, due to the efforts of several of our
> mutual Z acquaintences, John Washington sent
> me a very enthusiastic post in response to
> many of my recent remarks on the internet
> about the GTO kit's history. He volunteered
> a great deal of GTO information and contacts
> to me and asked whether I might like to work
> together with him on a related project. Now,
> I ask you, a person that is fond of calling
> strangers dorks in the safety of
> on-line forums, does it sound like John
> Washingtion is as upset with my remarks as
> you are?
> 6. I visited your website that attempts to
> promote yourself and your darling Vela Rosa
> GTO project. When it first loaded I was
> initially impressed, but soon discovered
> that your web page design skills are modest,
> some of your graphics are incompetently
> prepared and badly corrupted as is
> characteristic of a beginner and I suspect
> that you have ripped off someone else's fine
> image of a a yellow GTO car as well seeing
> that you do not have one of your own to show
> yet. If I am wrong then I apologise, but I
> doubt that I am.
> 7. I have had several customers over the
> years that have built the original Alpha GTO
> (ala Eagle) kit and have seen much of their
> projects progress through to completion.
> From your Oct 98 images it appears that you
> have some serious distance to go before you
> can claim to be knowledgeable about the GTO
> kit and it's refinements. When and if you
> ever complete it, send me a photo and I will
> be able tell if you did a good or poor job.
> Of course painting it black will help you
> camouflage a lot of errors in images posted
> to the internet, but not at a car show.
> Black paint will show ever error you make.
> Perhaps you should re-think the color and
> paint it white?

> Feel free to post any response you like to
> mine, but frankly, I do not think you are
> worth replying to again. What I have replied
> to your rude comments should make anything
> clear that needs to be made clear to those
> on this forum reading our exchange or to
> you. If you want to rant and rave some more,
> be my guest, but I doubt that I will be
> humoring your immature behavior again. I
> have much better things to do with my time
> as I am sure most mature persons on this
> forum do as well.

> Try getting your own life, website, project
> car, GTO facts and history in order first
> before you go slinging your crap at others
> on the Internet. You will then appear much
> less ignorant than you have so far.

> Regards,
> Eric Neyerlin - owner of Z PARTS
> <A HREF=http://www.jps.net/zparts>http://www.jps.net/zparts</A> /
 

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> OUCH mr expert z-man! A little overboard on
> your reply possibly?

> OK, so maybe I jumped on the paranoia wagon
> a little too soon. But you are WAY out of
> line to go so far against me! It was wrong
> of me to call you a dork, you are obviously
> not. But you also know nothing about me or
> the quality of my craftsmanship. I am no
> expert like you but I have fun with my
> project, on the weekends, in my garage, and
> when it's finished I will be proud to drive
> it around, knowing that I built it myself.

> So call me what you may. I have no trouble
> with who I am, or my station in life.

> Finally and for the record: I apologize for
> the tone of my first post. So let's just
> drop it.

> Steve Graber
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Steve,
Apology accepted. I think it is rare these days to encounter persons that have the guts to even offer an apology when it is due. Your reply does speak well for your character.

Some may think I over reacted, but I know from much experience that a post like yours could have started rumors that could have damaged a lot of the contacts and good reputation that I have worked long and hard to build up. At times it is not wise to let such rumors grow without challenge. There's a time to walk and there's a time to talk. I was taught as a child to go get a 2 duck dinner for the table with one bullet. You ended up being just one of several ducks that I had in my sights.

I am usually a very detailed and thourgh person in most of what I do in my professional life and the responses I do take the time to writeoften reflect that.

I agree with you that is now time to drop it and move on to more constructive endeavors.

John Washington has asked me to consider being involved with some efforts to track down all of the known GTO Z kit cars and their past and former owners. If you think you know of several that he might not, perhaps you could use your GTO website to contact these owners or find others. Perhaps a fill-out form at your site or an announcement?

Good luck with your project. Regards, Eric Neyerlin
 

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Very nice photo spread.........

I for one really appriciate the photo spread of the project you are working on. I am wearing poor John down with all my questions about the project, and pictures like this, shared by you, and hopefully others on the sugject will help all who have an interest in building what I see to be a beautiful alternative to the classic, but belly button looks of the original Z. Don't get me wrong, I really have enjoyed all the Z's I have had for just what they are, but anytime you can create such a beautiful car from one that has been around for so long, with such high production numbers as the Z. It becomes exciting. I hope others will forward pictures and comments about there own projects. Like minded people need to stay together. Thanks again everyone for your responses. Tim Hawk
 
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