Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
3.3 stroker, is this includes a special crank?
how much of stroking this involves and how much of overbore?
3.3 stroker, is this includes a special crank?
how much of stroking this involves and how much of overbore?
doing a Rebello 3.3 stroker
Met with Dave Rebello today to finalize the work for our 3.3 stroker. shooting for 330 flywheel HP which he said is no problem. it wasa toss up whether to do a 3.1 or a 3.3 stroker, but wanted to go with forged pistons and different rods with 30 more HP so 3.3 it was.
pretty much have it all mapped out, but wanted some input from people here on clutch/flywheel options.
i can use my current 225mm 240z flywheel and have it lightened.
can buy aftermarket 225mm or 240mm flywheel (need opinions)
so question is go with 225mm with it or 240mm and what would be advantages or disadvantages of either?
going with triple Mikunis on a Cannon intake with current 3/2 header on engine with current 2.5 inch exhaust or might have to update to 3 inch he said.
the 3.90 R200 rear is fine so that doesnt change except for maybe installing a lsd.
any suggestions as what to watch out for or other suggestions?
thanks
Post Edited (Nov 11, 4:10pm)
pretty much have it all mapped out, but wanted some input from people here on clutch/flywheel options.
i can use my current 225mm 240z flywheel and have it lightened.
can buy aftermarket 225mm or 240mm flywheel (need opinions)
so question is go with 225mm with it or 240mm and what would be advantages or disadvantages of either?
going with triple Mikunis on a Cannon intake with current 3/2 header on engine with current 2.5 inch exhaust or might have to update to 3 inch he said.
the 3.90 R200 rear is fine so that doesnt change except for maybe installing a lsd.
any suggestions as what to watch out for or other suggestions?
thanks
Post Edited (Nov 11, 4:10pm)
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Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
I believe it is a 90mm bore with a special 84mm stroke crank. Get a lightened 240mm flywheel and a super strong clutch. 3 inch exhaust is good. 3.7LSD. Should be a real monster car with that.
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I believe it is a 90mm bore with a special 84mm stroke crank. Get a lightened 240mm flywheel and a super strong clutch. 3 inch exhaust is good. 3.7LSD. Should be a real monster car with that.
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Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
You need to redo your math. it is only 3168 cc's. THere is also no way that you could bore any of the blocks more than that. I know this Because I have sonic tested every block. I would redo some calculations.
You need to redo your math. it is only 3168 cc's. THere is also no way that you could bore any of the blocks more than that. I know this Because I have sonic tested every block. I would redo some calculations.
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
well it must be possible (albeit not safe) because rebello is telling him they can build him a 3.3L stroker. Different combinations that equal 3.3L are:
bore x stroke
92 x 83 = 3311cc
91 x 84 = 3278cc
91 x 85 = 3317cc
90 x 86 = 3283cc
90 x 87 = 3321cc
89 x 88 = 3285cc
89 x 89 = 3322cc
EDIT: or its a typo and he mean't 3.2L stroker which would be 90 x 83 = 3168cc
Post Edited (Nov 9, 11:34pm)
well it must be possible (albeit not safe) because rebello is telling him they can build him a 3.3L stroker. Different combinations that equal 3.3L are:
bore x stroke
92 x 83 = 3311cc
91 x 84 = 3278cc
91 x 85 = 3317cc
90 x 86 = 3283cc
90 x 87 = 3321cc
89 x 88 = 3285cc
89 x 89 = 3322cc
EDIT: or its a typo and he mean't 3.2L stroker which would be 90 x 83 = 3168cc
Post Edited (Nov 9, 11:34pm)
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
You want the BIG nismo header for an engine this size. If it's making that much power, you'll need the 240mm flywheel with something like a dual friction centerforce.
You want the BIG nismo header for an engine this size. If it's making that much power, you'll need the 240mm flywheel with something like a dual friction centerforce.
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
i will certainly double check the figures, but im pretty sure it worked out to be 3.3. I trust Dave in what hes building and talking about, but it never hurts to double check whats being used and what the final measurements are.
he said our 1-5/8 header would be sufficient with a 3 inch exhaust as we are not all out racing this engine as its only being street driven and probably never even be run at the track.
all this will be gone over again towards the end of the build to make sure the right parts/pieces are used.
i will certainly double check the figures, but im pretty sure it worked out to be 3.3. I trust Dave in what hes building and talking about, but it never hurts to double check whats being used and what the final measurements are.
he said our 1-5/8 header would be sufficient with a 3 inch exhaust as we are not all out racing this engine as its only being street driven and probably never even be run at the track.
all this will be gone over again towards the end of the build to make sure the right parts/pieces are used.
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
WOW! Best of luck on that project!
Dave
WOW! Best of luck on that project!
Dave
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
since i am just learning Datsun mechanicals (Pontiac racer for 35 years), its best to just let Rebello do this for us the first go round.
we originally bought this car to do a V8 conversion which would have been very easy for me building it and getting it in, but my son decided on the stroker which left me...well...datsun uneducated to say the least.
will be very interesting...
Post Edited (Nov 10, 1:21am)
since i am just learning Datsun mechanicals (Pontiac racer for 35 years), its best to just let Rebello do this for us the first go round.
we originally bought this car to do a V8 conversion which would have been very easy for me building it and getting it in, but my son decided on the stroker which left me...well...datsun uneducated to say the least.
will be very interesting...
Post Edited (Nov 10, 1:21am)
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
Good grief, can you not sleep either?
Dave
Good grief, can you not sleep either?
Dave
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
You might want to get some HANS devices built into your seats so your head doesn't just fall off the first time you mash the gas
You might want to get some HANS devices built into your seats so your head doesn't just fall off the first time you mash the gas
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
well i work graveyard shift for the government in a super dooper secret job so im up all night on your tax dollars surfing the internet! LOL
i will not let my son drive the car until we get the roll bar in and racing harness. right now it doesnt even have a shoulder belt... bad news!
Post Edited (Nov 10, 1:51am)
well i work graveyard shift for the government in a super dooper secret job so im up all night on your tax dollars surfing the internet! LOL
i will not let my son drive the car until we get the roll bar in and racing harness. right now it doesnt even have a shoulder belt... bad news!
Post Edited (Nov 10, 1:51am)
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
i work nights too. Im a security guard at an explosives plant. lol
Post Edited (Nov 10, 2:05am)
i work nights too. Im a security guard at an explosives plant. lol
Post Edited (Nov 10, 2:05am)
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
Brian, it's your tax dollars at work too you know! So in a way, your paying yourself.
TchrisX- that's a scary thought, more scary if your working at a nuclear facility though.
Me, I still can't sleep,BAH! **** sheep!
Dave
Brian, it's your tax dollars at work too you know! So in a way, your paying yourself.
TchrisX- that's a scary thought, more scary if your working at a nuclear facility though.
Me, I still can't sleep,BAH! **** sheep!
Dave
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
explosives? i hate to ask what kind.. you know those hidden Texas munition dumps... oops wait... that Iraq...
I love graveyard shifts.. no one here cept me....
hey 240z did you see my post above on changing to a 80 dizzy?
explosives? i hate to ask what kind.. you know those hidden Texas munition dumps... oops wait... that Iraq...
I love graveyard shifts.. no one here cept me....
hey 240z did you see my post above on changing to a 80 dizzy?
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
we make shaped charges for oilfield drilling
we make shaped charges for oilfield drilling
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
Briann510, what is the cost on something like this(ballpark figure)?
Briann510, what is the cost on something like this(ballpark figure)?
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
6k ballpark give or take.
only things i am supplying is the crank, dizzy, header, flywheel and clutch. the forged pistons, billet rods and head porting is where alot of the cost is. that price also includes break in on the dyno.
6k ballpark give or take.
only things i am supplying is the crank, dizzy, header, flywheel and clutch. the forged pistons, billet rods and head porting is where alot of the cost is. that price also includes break in on the dyno.
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
Street driven, never to be run at the track? I wouldn't bother with the additional cost of going to 3.3 (custom rods, forged pistons, custom welded/offset ground crank?). You can run stock 240Z rods and KA24E pistons at 7000rpm and beyond all day long. You're definitely getting into the region of diminishing hp gains/dollar spent by going to forged pistons and custom rods. I see absolutely NO need for those for your intended usage.
Dan
Street driven, never to be run at the track? I wouldn't bother with the additional cost of going to 3.3 (custom rods, forged pistons, custom welded/offset ground crank?). You can run stock 240Z rods and KA24E pistons at 7000rpm and beyond all day long. You're definitely getting into the region of diminishing hp gains/dollar spent by going to forged pistons and custom rods. I see absolutely NO need for those for your intended usage.
Dan
Re: doing a 3.3 stroker
and if you want to get to 300hp+ range just turbo the motor, will cost less
and if you want to get to 300hp+ range just turbo the motor, will cost less
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