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Hello all. Ya know, there comes a time when you have gotten all of the experience and knowledge out of something that your going to get out of it. Well, I believe I have reached that point with my Z. Now, I know that just last Saturday, I posted a really great message about how Ozzie helped me out with my car, and I still stand by that message, and everything therein, but a switch somewhere somehow has been flipped, and I can go no further with my car. I have learned alot about how it sucks to not be able to save your money, especially when you dont make very much, I have gotten direction and inspiration that I dont think would have been there, had I have never killed my car last May, and I did kill my car, unknowingly, had I known at the time the extent of the damage, I would have never even thought about trying to fix the car, but I just didn't know. Let my experience be a warning for you all, anytime that you are ever messing with your battery, say for instance, you had to take it out to make room for replacing your starter, (like I did), please pay very close attention to the way that you hook that bad boy back up...I did not...I think I was talking to someone at the same time, and just didn't notice. Since then I have replaced over a thousand dollars of new parts, and have saved absolutely no money inbetween May of 98 and now. I live in Tacoma WA, so I'm sure some of you know how much it rains up here, and how much it sucks to not have a car....anyway, I digress...I have much enjoyed corresponding with all of you, I like the friendships that I have made...on this web page, and TwinTurbo.com, the pathway to a much better vehicle has opened up for me, and I am going to take the opportunity..some of you will sneer, so be it..I am getting a 92 Suzuki Sidekick, perfect body/paint, 4x4 for 2,800 bucks..excellent deal, I cannot wait to have wheels again. I have not yet decided whether I want to sell the car as a whole, or part it out...if I sell it as a whole, I'm afraid I'm going to struggle to get even a grand for it. If I part it out, I know that I could get atleast 850 for parts alone, not including the engine and drivetrain. Part of me wants to end the legacy of my Z and put it to rest, the other part wants convenience since I have no idea how in the world to part out a car...especially the engine and drivetrain, any input from any of you would be greatly appreciated, and I'm really sorry about the novel here, I hope that you have found it to be an enjoyable piece of light reading. Sincerely yours, and will always be a true Z fan, Greg Vann aka Z-Rex.
 

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I understand the frustration, having had several over the past years. My only advice is to keep any performance/desirable parts you may have, as you will probably have another z one day, when the finances are better. Especially save the manuals. I never thought I'd have another Z, but am glad I saved the stuff I did.

Mike G.
 

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Z-Rex,
Brother, I feel your pain. I bought my current Z to tinker and work on yet have not had the time or money. (more money than time). I sure wish Zcar.com was around 20 years ago when I had my first Z. MMM..If I knew then what I know now!!

I live in Bellingham a few hours north of you and know the rain quite well. Plus the wife wants a mini-van and we're thinking the Z will be sacrificed for it. I'll get the civic our only other car and too small to keep hauling the family around in.

I'll think of you each time I cross the Narrows Bridge on my way to Bremerton Raceway.

Take Care,

Rbest
 

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> I'll think of you each time I cross the
> Narrows Bridge on my way to Bremerton
> Raceway.

WOW, now you've got me reminicing.... I grew up autocrossing in Bremerton, but that was over 10 years ago.....
 

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How many in WA?

> WOW, now you've got me reminicing.... I grew
> up autocrossing in Bremerton, but that was
> over 10 years ago.....

I've lived in the Seattle area (currently Bellevue) over a year now and I don't see many Z's. How many people on this list are in Wa. and anybody ever delt with Z-Sport in Everett?
Anthony
 

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Z-Sport is run by clowns

> I've lived in the Seattle area (currently
> Bellevue) over a year now and I don't see
> many Z's. How many people on this list are
> in Wa. and anybody ever delt with Z-Sport in
> Everett?
> Anthony

I'm in Seattle. I have a friend with a Z too. Z-Sport in Everett (father and son team) has some decent parts for sale, especially if you don't wanna scrounge the wrecking yards yourself. But you should do your homework and know exactly what you want and what a fair price is.

As for service, it is my experience that they will try to take EVERY advantage they can of you. The father was telling my friend that he would drop my friends LD28 crank into my friends current motor without any other modification or extra parts, all for $$$ (I forgot the figure, but it was outrageous because this is impossible and all he would do if anything is pump the advance and take the LD crank and cash). But who knows, perhaps he knows something I don't...maybe there are special Nissan con-rods that compress 2mm when the piston rams into the head. Ya that's it! Compression rods!!! ya special in that year only.. lucky you..

This was more than 8 years ago, so maybe they have changed. More likely than not they are the same, so beware.
 

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Re: Z-Sport is run by clowns

> I'm in Seattle. I have a friend with a Z
> too. Z-Sport in Everett (father and son
> team) has some decent parts for sale,
> especially if you don't wanna scrounge the
> wrecking yards yourself. But you should do
> your homework and know exactly what you want
> and what a fair price is.

> As for service, it is my experience that
> they will try to take EVERY advantage they
> can of you. The father was telling my friend
> that he would drop my friends LD28 crank
> into my friends current motor without any
> other modification or extra parts, all for
> $$$ (I forgot the figure, but it was
> outrageous because this is impossible and
> all he would do if anything is pump the
> advance and take the LD crank and cash). But
> who knows, perhaps he knows something I
> don't...maybe there are special Nissan
> con-rods that compress 2mm when the piston
> rams into the head. Ya that's it!
> Compression rods!!! ya special in that year
> only.. lucky you..

> This was more than 8 years ago, so maybe
> they have changed. More likely than not they
> are the same, so beware.

I suspected this for a number of reasons. First, the rebuild ended up almost twice as much as the estimate, although I did change things here and there. Then afterward it ran great, then I had head gasket leaks, so after two of them they decide to change my head, and now it SUCKS. It runs like crap, doesn't rev as far, less power, the sound is horrible, and I think they switched cams on me. I've taken it back so many times I can't count now but it's still not up to par. I just want them to fix it and I can then get on my way . Anyone know of a good Z mechanic in the Seattle area?
 

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Re: How many in WA?

I live in Belligham now, was in Lynden. Not many Z's around here at all.

I've bought a few parts from Z sport. A speedomter they charged $65 for. It did not work in my car so they took it back. Bought a whole gage cluster from Gundies for $75. I had them look at a vibration I have at about 50 - 65 mph, mostly in 5th gear. They said my tires were inflated to 65psi and he let some are out and the vibration was gone. The tires were 2 months old and this was last June. I drove home and felt like I had 4 flats. The vibration was still there. Checked the psi when I got home and it was about 20, and that was hot. I've inflated to the manuals 28psi. Oh well, I'm living with it.

Anyway, I can't say anything really bad other than it pays to shop around. I have a mechanic in Everson, WA we use and trust. They are not Z specialists, but know my car and many sports cars including porsches. They work on our Honda too. The Nissan dealer has done a few things like give me an $1100 estimate to repair my heating system. They admit, though, They really don't work on many of these cars and it may be more or less. I sopke with a mechanic in Portland referred to me by Joe at All Z East. He said he would replace my heat system for $100. Joes said the parts would be $125. Again, it pays to shop around and it may take a little drive.

Oh well, my input.
rbest
 

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Re: Z-Sport is run by clowns

hey guys,

i'm an ASE certified mechanic and i live and work over on the kitsap penisula here in the great puget sound. i own two z cars and i love working on them. i'm always fixing or improving something. i live about 5 minutes from the bremerton raceway. i'll be autocrossing soon if all goes well. i need to buy tires. i've called and talked to the guys at z-sport about some parts and wasn't all that impressed with them. they didn't seem very professional. but then again, i just bought a 4-core radiator from motorsport auto and it wasn't exactly bolt-on, so maybe you can't win. i can get good deals and quality on stock parts, but anything custom is never what it seems. there's another guy in seattle who specializes in z cars, but his name escapes me just now. i think he's on lake city way. he's in the yellow pages. i talked to him once about a headliner.

sorry to hear about your misfortunes z-rex, let me know if you're parting the car out. what year is it? i'd look around for another one if you like these cars. i found one in excellent condition up in redmond for $2800. it took a little work to fix a few things but i had the parts laying around. i had a friend who's an awesome body man buff out the paint. the seattle times newspaper is the best place to find z cars for sale.
 

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Re: How many in WA?

> I've lived in the Seattle area (currently
> Bellevue) over a year now and I don't see
> many Z's. How many people on this list are
> in Wa. and anybody ever delt with Z-Sport in
> Everett?

I live in Renton and Mail ordered a Tilton 3/4 Brake cylinder for the clutch in a V8 conversion from Z Sport in Everet. Not outrageous but Jegs would have been cheaper. The nice thing was they knew what I needed....ironically the old man there claimed Knell at JTR stole his design

Probably won't be doing more business there but all in all it wasn't a bad experience

-Chuck
 

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> I've lived in the Seattle area (currently
> Bellevue) over a year now and I don't see
> many Z's. How many people on this list are
> in Wa. and anybody ever delt with Z-Sport in
> Everett?
> Anthony

I live on the Eastside too - I have dealt with them a few times. Biggest purchase from them was a 5speed and I put it in and it didn't go into gear! I was totally furious. They rebuilt another one and put it in for me on a Saturday but it doesn't go into fifth that smoothly. I don't have that great of an opinion of them - as long as you know what you are doing then I would say it is safe to get parts from them but, other than that I honestly know that I know more than their mechanics do - and I have the car to prove it...Anyone up for a race? hehehe
 

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> hey guys,

> i'm an ASE certified mechanic and i live and
> work over on the kitsap penisula here in the
> great puget sound. i own two z cars and i
> love working on them. i'm always fixing or
> improving something. i live about 5 minutes
> from the bremerton raceway. i'll be
> autocrossing soon if all goes well. i need
> to buy tires. i've called and talked to the
> guys at z-sport about some parts and wasn't
> all that impressed with them. they didn't
> seem very professional. but then again, i
> just bought a 4-core radiator from
> motorsport auto and it wasn't exactly
> bolt-on, so maybe you can't win. i can get
> good deals and quality on stock parts, but
> anything custom is never what it seems.
> there's another guy in seattle who
> specializes in z cars, but his name escapes
> me just now. i think he's on lake city way.
> he's in the yellow pages. i talked to him
> once about a headliner.

> sorry to hear about your misfortunes z-rex,
> let me know if you're parting the car out.
> what year is it? i'd look around for another
> one if you like these cars. i found one in
> excellent condition up in redmond for $2800.
> it took a little work to fix a few things
> but i had the parts laying around. i had a
> friend who's an awesome body man buff out
> the paint. the seattle times newspaper is
> the best place to find z cars for sale.

It's Z Specialties on Ballinger way in Lake Forest Park. The Z-Man, Ollie, is pretty cool and will always answer questions with great authority. He knows his stuff, he also charges $65 /hr and is always booked.
 

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> hey guys,

> i'm an ASE certified mechanic and i live and
> work over on the kitsap penisula here in the
> great puget sound. i own two z cars and i
> love working on them. i'm always fixing or
> improving something. i live about 5 minutes
> from the bremerton raceway. i'll be
> autocrossing soon if all goes well. i need
> to buy tires. i've called and talked to the
> guys at z-sport about some parts and wasn't
> all that impressed with them. they didn't
> seem very professional. but then again, i
> just bought a 4-core radiator from
> motorsport auto and it wasn't exactly
> bolt-on, so maybe you can't win. i can get
> good deals and quality on stock parts, but
> anything custom is never what it seems.
> there's another guy in seattle who
> specializes in z cars, but his name escapes
> me just now. i think he's on lake city way.
> he's in the yellow pages. i talked to him
> once about a headliner.

> sorry to hear about your misfortunes z-rex,
> let me know if you're parting the car out.
> what year is it? i'd look around for another
> one if you like these cars. i found one in
> excellent condition up in redmond for $2800.
> it took a little work to fix a few things
> but i had the parts laying around. i had a
> friend who's an awesome body man buff out
> the paint. the seattle times newspaper is
> the best place to find z cars for sale.

The guy on Lake City Way is Scott Wands and the shop is
Champaine Service. Scott is very knowlegeabe about Z-cars
and is very fair pricewise (expecially compaired to Z-Sport)
 

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> hey guys,

> i'm an ASE certified mechanic and i live and
> work over on the kitsap penisula here in the
> great puget sound. i own two z cars and i
> love working on them. i'm always fixing or
> improving something. i live about 5 minutes
> from the bremerton raceway. i'll be
> autocrossing soon if all goes well. i need
> to buy tires. i've called and talked to the
> guys at z-sport about some parts and wasn't
> all that impressed with them. they didn't
> seem very professional. but then again, i
> just bought a 4-core radiator from
> motorsport auto and it wasn't exactly
> bolt-on, so maybe you can't win. i can get
> good deals and quality on stock parts, but
> anything custom is never what it seems.
> there's another guy in seattle who
> specializes in z cars, but his name escapes
> me just now. i think he's on lake city way.
> he's in the yellow pages. i talked to him
> once about a headliner.
Casper, I think that you are referring to Ollie at
Z Specialties. He has an charge account with us, and has been very honorable in our business dealings(all over the phone).Ollie's phone number is 206-363-3577.

Is this z-sport place the one that advertises over a million dollars in inventory? We have approx 400z's., and only claim about $60,000 inventory. I would hate to pay the federal taxes on a million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> sorry to hear about your misfortunes z-rex,
> let me know if you're parting the car out.
> what year is it? i'd look around for another
> one if you like these cars. i found one in
> excellent condition up in redmond for $2800.
> it took a little work to fix a few things
> but i had the parts laying around. i had a
> friend who's an awesome body man buff out
> the paint. the seattle times newspaper is
> the best place to find z cars for sale.
 

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> Casper, I think that you are referring to
> Ollie at
> Z Specialties. He has an charge account with
> us, and has been very honorable in our
> business dealings(all over the
> phone).Ollie's phone number is 206-363-3577.

> Is this z-sport place the one that
> advertises over a million dollars in
> inventory? We have approx 400z's., and only
> claim about $60,000 inventory. I would hate
> to pay the federal taxes on a
> million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah you're right, that's who i'm thinking of. they're on ballinger way not lake city way. now i remember. he seemed like a nice guy, had some good info. z-sport in everett does make that claim, but they always say they need to order stuff. i've called them about z parts and they're never in stock. a million dollars of inventory would be a killer, especially since washington state has an inventory tax. the average rule around here is, if you don't sell three of them in one year, you don't stock it. i do remember when doug's racing stables was sold, doug had over a million in high performance parts in stock. i don't know how he did it.
 

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> I've lived in the Seattle area (currently
> Bellevue) over a year now and I don't see
> many Z's. How many people on this list are
> in Wa. and anybody ever delt with Z-Sport in
> Everett?
> Anthony

Hello there, I'm in Washington (Bremerton), own 3 Z's, a 1971 240, 76 280Z with tripple mikuni's and a 75 that is more or less a parts car, still has some body parts left if you want it for free let me know. I delt with Z-sport, ordered a cam with a .480 lift 275 duration and got a .460lift 270 duration. But I used it in the 240Z anyway as it's a good one for what it's set up with. This is the only time I've delt with them and I don't know if this is the way they always are? If you deal with them double check what you get.
At the gas station I met someone (told me what a nice Z I had and said he has one with a V8, lives real close so I want to check it out, told him he was crazy but oh well... hehehehe...
Oh, to the people who read about the spark plugs to try (you know, the mult electrode types), I decided to give them a try, got the BP6ET's, 3 electrode type and I also remember one guy said someone told him these can burn holes in the pistons. Weeeelllll, I agree with whoever told him that, I got some real nasty detonation with these and don't recomend these plugs at all unless you use a lot of octane booster but running the low compression that my Z has I just don't recomend these plugs for the Z car. I see that Bosch has a new plug called Bosch Platinum 4+ or +4, and these have 4 electrodes, might be a good one to try even though they are plat. plugs, wish they built a copper or better yet a silver plug but I'm going to stay with my Torque Master plugs cuz even with around 60,000mi they were much better than the new NGK BP6ET plugs. Maybe the other NGK number that was up is a better plug but I already threw 20.00 away on these other ones and won't try these other NGK's. I'd rather sink another 72.00 for a set of Torque Masters. They are supposed to last around 150,000 to 300,000mi and I think they do, after 60,000mi these ones I have are still running very strong. These Torque Masters are a odd one, use a huge gap with a solid ring shaped electrode which gives great unimpared spark to the combustion chamber, no electrode blocking and no need for indexing. I think this is part of why they work so good. The gap I think is around .106, pretty huge huh? But seeing is beleaving and they do work great. Sorry about the length of this post but I get carried away...
 

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There sure are a lot of people that post here that live in Washington!

I'm not a part of any clubs or anything so maybe that is why I would think it would be cool to get together and meet somewhere sometime. Anybody up for it? Email me if so!

> yeah you're right, that's who i'm thinking
> of. they're on ballinger way not lake city
> way. now i remember. he seemed like a nice
> guy, had some good info. z-sport in everett
> does make that claim, but they always say
> they need to order stuff. i've called them
> about z parts and they're never in stock. a
> million dollars of inventory would be a
> killer, especially since washington state
> has an inventory tax. the average rule
> around here is, if you don't sell three of
> them in one year, you don't stock it. i do
> remember when doug's racing stables was
> sold, doug had over a million in high
> performance parts in stock. i don't know how
> he did it.
 

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> It's Z Specialties on Ballinger way in Lake
> Forest Park. The Z-Man, Ollie, is pretty
> cool and will always answer questions with
> great authority. He knows his stuff, he also
> charges $65 /hr and is always booked.

I totally concur. Ollie is the only person I trust with my 260Z. He is the BEST by far.

And if one is looking to buy a used Z...he always have a few for sale.

John
 

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> Hello there, I'm in Washington (Bremerton),
> own 3 Z's, a 1971 240, 76 280Z with tripple
> mikuni's and a 75 that is more or less a
> parts car,

---- SNIP ----------

Sorry
> about the length of this post but I get
> carried away...

I'm suprised that no one has mentioned the
Z-Car Club of Washington. We have about 50
members in WA. Check out the web
page:

Paul
 
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