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To All....

I have a 73Z and it seems to me that I'm always working on it in some way... Dumping money in to it for every reason... from newer bumpers to Z emblems...

I spend about $350-400 bucks a month on my car for upgrades to repairs and cleaning... which appears to be never ending. I own the car outright... so the bank has never been an issue... Are you guy's droping the same kind of money and time into your cars?
 

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RE: Z-Money and Time

I probably spend 200 bucks a month on my car. Slowly upgrading everything. Every so often I'll do a 500 dollar month...

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RE: Z-Money and Time

It's the nature of the beast. Almost any car you work on to do it right costs money. At least the zcar is good looking and well be far into the future. Exspesully(spelling) if gas prices keep going up we'll be able to drive ours.
 

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I've been spending a little more than that. I'm hoping and praying that I'm nearing the end of the cycle, since most of the money has been replacing parts that were origional and lasted 27 years! Hopefully they will last another 27, or at least 5 or 10.

Old cars are always expensive. When I start getting down, I just go and talk to my co-worker who has an old Porsche. That thing sucks up money like you won't believe!
 

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RE: Z-Money and Time

without a doubt. my suspension was suppose to cost under $1000, but with constant unexpected problems it was a different story. plus you have to remember, the car is old, you fix one thing another breaks. but regardless, IMO i would not trade my Z for anything in the world, well except maybe a 911 slantnose turbo.

so dont feel bad about the money, its a pain in the butt..but everything has a cost. =)
 

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RE: Z-Money and Time

I concur, I just got back from the shop having laid down 400 bucks for injector replacement. I would have done the work my self, but I wanted it done right, and right now. She is my daily driver. And every other month I set aside 200-300 for restoration. Its my only vice and only hobby, so I justify it as stress relief!

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<b>This is what my girlfriend calls it!</b>

A never ending money pit! Before I wrecked my last turbo 240z over an 8 month period I dumped over $12K into new floorpans, interior, full body work and repaint and the most expensive part, my turbo engine which had atleast $8K into it. And my new motor was the old motor rebuilt with an addition $2700 put into it. Just think of your outflow of money into the car as a car payment. Do you feel better now?
 

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To All:

Thanks for the replies. I just wasn't sure if my costs were out of line. I would love to replace the doors, fenders, and hatch. I can't see trying to fix them with a layer of bondo because there are so many door dings on them. Except the hatch was slightly backed into with a tall 4x4. Not bad but warrents replacement.

Unexpected costs have become the norm... I'm going down to the Z National's and I decided to replace the front bumper... What started out as a simple issue has grown very quickly. The front end is stock, and I ended up busting 3 bolts to remove the bumper. Busting meaning that I had a 10mm socket on the bolt and I was turning away and snap.... not a really nice sound. So then I decided to remove the back plate in the center of the bumper... snapped off two of the 4 nuts that hold it on.... and all I wanted to do was paint it black. I don't mind this happening until I look at the price of OEM stuff....

Time... Gee... Getting ready for the Z Nationals is looking like a 3 week process... I have cleaned, polished, and waxed everything... except for maybe the brackets that hold the bumpers on...but I still have a week to go... I think the Z is looking pretty darn good...

It was good to hear that others are doing the same stuff... Thanks for all your comments...

It sure is nice having a fun car to drive that looks great.
 

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Man, I'm a gearhead but this is just a hobby for me. Nobody works on my car but me, but I don't spend much on it. I don't replace anything that I can rebuild. I buy cut rate parts (junk-yard, JC Whittney, etc.) whenever I can, and make them work. Parts cars help alot if you've got the space for them. Nothing wrong with buying everything new/rebuilt and having people work on your stuff, but I think that's half the fun for me. My Z used to be a daily driver, but not anymore. I might spend $1000 this year because I'm gonna do some susp and brake upgrades, maybe a V-8 next year. But then again, I abuse my cars and enjoy it. I love to push the envelope, even if it's just my envelope. If you've never had all 4 wheels off the ground at 70 in a Z, you've never seen just how great the suspension travel is. And then you drive home and fix the exhaust that you just broke cause you chopped the springs just a little too much last week.
 

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Will cost$12-$15K

By the time my 72 240 is
"refreshed", not refurbished or restored. Good clean up, treat, remove rust, restore suspension & mechanics to A-1 condition, add a/c, new paint, bumpers & emblems. Includes purchase price of the 240.

It is a daily driver, and I prefer my 240 over most other $12-$15 K autos on the road.
 

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RE: Too much

11 yrs ago I repainted, re-upholstered, carpeted, put custom wheels, KYB's, springs and an E31/L88/3x40DCOE/cam, centerforce clutch, 5-speed in it. For 10 yrs I just drove it...Hard...when it wasn't in storage, since I was working in the middle east quite a bit. Then, about a year ago, I started autoxing and since then...eccentric bushings, powder coating, HI-6 Ignition, spare wheels/race tires, strut bars, braided lines, etc. So far, about $1400 with brakes yet to go. But amortized over that time, a LOT less than car payments on anything new with as much grin/pucker factor!
 

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BUCK SEASON

You are not alone Dennis. I am at $6065 and need roughly need $1400.00 to make it like I want it. Lets say rounded out $7500.00. Look at what that will get you in the newspaper. I am going to have a ball in this thing.. That "used car" from the lot or newspaper will be long gone or held in contempt but the Z will still be around...
 

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Well worth it

i'm sure you guys would agree with me thats its better to invest 10,000 in a Z car then to buy a brand new civic or one of those other cheap cars (right ed:)? Its the greatest feeling to burn something that they've paid a lot for and you beat em with a old Z so i consider the money I invest in my car a good investment:)
Zya all
yuichi
 

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RE: Z-Money and Time

great topic! This is like therapy. I've got about $7000 in my '70 Z and estimate that it could cost me another $10,000 if I wanted to bring it up to "very nice." Not "concours d' elegance" - just very nice. I'm 62 years old with a bad hip and bad back, so I don't do my own repair and restoration, and I like to be sure things are done right. I'm also basically a car nut from the style standpoint, I've got no interest in racing. To me, my '70 240Z is one of the world's most beautifully designed cars, no matter what those snooty Europeans say or think. I love to look at it parked in my driveway, and I love the oohs and aahs I get as I drive it. But as an investment? I don't think so. I've got it for sale now, (see bad hip), but I don't think I'll be able to sell it for what I've got in it. You can see it at www.russack.com/240.htm I'd like to sell it to someone on this forum, because we are a group who appreciates what Mr. K gave us. And if you've read David Halberstam's book, you know that Nissan didn't treat Mr. K very well, jealousy, I think. Thanks for the therapy, Dennis
 

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<b>RE: This is what my girlfriend calls it!</b>

It's cheaper than drugs or hookers, and at least you have something to show for it.
 

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RE: Z-Money and Time

I have two Z's, 260Z-74 and 280Z-78, both have gone through ground up restoration and performance upgrades. And still finishing 280Z. I do most of the work myself and improvise a lot. You be surprise how much useful stuff you can find from Home Depot.

I started -89 and since then I have spend about $25,000 and numerous girlfriends have taken me off their speed dials.
 

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Approximate $$ on my Velo Rossa

Complete mechanical restoration on $500 78Z, suspension, bottom-up rebuild on engine, complete interior, paint (show quality), inumerable other items: $12,500 (plus or minus $2,000 if I'm telling the wife)

<A HREF=http:\\www.newtier.com\graber\z-car\index.html>MY BABY - Oh GOD how I love her!</A>

heh, heh

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Yuichi-You da Man

Tell it like it is. We can profile in our Z's and kick butt if needed.. Most of those new cars sound like they are farting.... Sorry for the language... My Z wants to disembowel Civics..
 

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RE: Z-Money and Time

2350 for the car
~1400 for stripping and unsat paint job
~1500 on misc parts,
aero kit
struts/springs/bushings
weatherstripping
little pieces
~400 tires

plan to spend 10 - 20000 in about five years when I financially recover from career change
 

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I have spent (what I got it for + repairs/upgrades) around 5000-6000 dollars. I am number 4 or 5 on the owner list and looking at what had been done when I got it we ( the other owners and I ) have spent around 12-13,000+. I have only owned the car from sept. 8,1997. And it is not perfect or near done. I have some major power plant upgrades and drive train upgrades in the works. It has Tokico springs/struts, polyurethane bushings, 5-speed, new floor pans, new paint and fenders, and alot of other things. But I have a point where I want to get it and then I will stop for a little rest before well, who knows what.
 
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