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NOW that I am part of this really helpful and interesting bulletin board, I\'d like your honest opinions.
In stock form, which car performs all around BETTER.
The 240Z, or the 280ZX?
Honestly I like the 240 better, purer in form and style.
But i don\'t know what a performance comparison woudl add up to.
 

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If I remember correctly, the 240 performs better due to its' lighter weight. A ZX turbo will be faster in the accelleration department. To verify this, I'd have to go looking thru old car & drivers & road & tracks to find car test results.

I know that Car & Driver did a head to head between a ZX and a readers personal 240Z. The 240 had Mikunis, header, wheels, tires, springs, shocks. the 240 was faster around Willow Springs. I don't remember if the ZX was turbo or n/a. I don't remember who was faster accel, better braking or skid pad. But, I do remember the 240 was all around faster around track (this was mildly modified & the ZX was bone stock.)

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240Z any day, weighs around 2300lbs

I would take a well tuned 240Z over a 280ZX any day of the week. The weight alone would be worth going with the 240Z over the 280ZX. I think there is around an 800lb difference. The 240Z should weigh around 2300lbs(dump the spare tire). Weight makes a world of difference. I think every 100lbs cost you 10 HP. Also, I like the suspension better in the 240Zs. A arms versus trailing arms.
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RE: 240Z any day, weighs around 2300lbs

I'm sorry, are you really asking if a 240 performs better then a parts car? ;)
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<b>RE: 240Z any day, weighs around 2300lbs</b>

I thought the comparison was 240Z versus 280Z. Not 280ZX. As far as the comparison goes, There is no doubt the 240 out performed the 280 in every performance aspect, 0 to 60, 1/4 mile and handling. Its like comparing apples to oranges. The 240 is aproximately 300 lbs. lighter and made more horsepower.Now, if you asking about performance on a daily basis, how well has the car withstood time and how dependable is it today. There is no doubt it has to be the 280Z. Fuel injectionn is FAR superior to carbs. And if you've ever owned a 240 you already know the nightmares of vapor lock in the summer and hard starting in the winter.your probally also aware of the wiring and fuse box that meltsat will. And another thing, God help you if your ever hit by a large american car in a 240. I'm sure this will probally ruffle a few feathers, And this was not my intent. This is just a personal
opinion based from from experience.
 

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How does the 240Z stand up to getting hit?

maybe its cause i've never been around long enough, but I doubt 240Z's are really safe if you get hit, but can it kick the crap out of other cars when it gets hit? I know the american cars are a lot bigger and heavy but at least the 240Z stands better then those metro's and miatas hahaha kia;s etc..
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Matty,

Interesting question you have decided to ask.... Right here on ZCAR.COM in the 70 - 83 forum. When they only made 240Z's from 70 to 73... kind of leaves lots of room for the guy's with something in the range of 74 - 83 plenty of room to talk.

Me.. I have a 73 240Z and I really enjoy it. Why... well I live in the San Francisco Bay Area where the sun's out most of the time. I also never have to go to the smog inspection station because it is a 73. This means lots to me because I do have a truck that needs to be checked every 2 years. For convience... I think the 240Z is a better pick.... Performance is based on how much you have to spend and how fast you want to go.
 

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The 240 is the classic. No two ways about that one. It'll always be the most sought after, valuable and collectible of the Z cars. It's also the lightest, most powerful and therefore fastest of the 1st generation Zs. The only pre-300Z that could beat it in the 1/4 mile -- at least according to the Nissan propaganda -- were the ZX turbos.

All the 69-78 cars enjoyed better handling than stock ZXs through the twisties, too. That goofy trailing arm thing the 'X' cars borrowed from the Stanza (or wherever they got it) didn't belong under a performance car.

One myth that endures is that the ZXs were heavy, slow pigs compared to Zs. Not true. You can check it out yourself under 'Z specs' on Trevor's Z-car page (there's a link on this website): the ZX series were actually 50 pounds LIGHTER in stock trim than a the fuelie 75-78Zs. They were also less than an inch longer overall wheelbase, though they sure look bigger.

For my money, a cherried '82-83 is the best looking car ever built. (The 1st gen Zs are a close second.) And shoot me, but I like all the bells, whistles and gimmicky doodads the ZXs have.
 

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I have a 81ZXT and from what the specs say the 81-83ZX Turbo is the fastest Z car next to the 300ZXTT
I use to work for a Race Car company that built drag cars from light cars to really heavy ones some of the heavy ones could sure kick some mustang ass
but then again running a 800+ BHP engine helps alittle

I myself think that the 240 looks better and Im sure handles better but in stock form drag racing the ZX wins "if its turbo" now if your going around sharp turns then the Z wins I guess you always win alittle and lose alittle

Im sure my old boss with his 7 sec time on the 1/4 mile would lose to almost any car if you raced it on a track with some turns hehe gotta love the little wheels on the front
 

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hay I like all Zs but the 300z

I have a 83 zxt. The frist z I ever own. Befor that a crappy Escort. But I can say I like all z from 70 to 83. Here why the 240 where the frist and they are light. 260 they only made them for a year. 280z started to change with the vents then the turbo and the add on with the zx.

If I could and If I find one I will get a 240. and a 260.

One thing My Z can roast a mustang anyday. Ops I like to call them crudstangs hehehe
 

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The avrerag 240Z weighs around 2400 lbs.

The 240z weighed 2355 with tiny 4.5x14 rims and 175 tires. The average 240z, with decent rims and tires, probably weighs around 2400 lbs, about 400 lbs lighter than the 280zx, which incidentally weighs about the same as a 280z. The 300zx tops the list at about 3000 lbs.

I don't know why Nissan switched to trailing arms in 1979, but I also like the strut design better.
 

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RE: 240 vs 280zx, not a fair comparison

It would be better to compare the 280zx with a 280z, 'cause Nissan had no choice but to strengthen the chassis and add crash bumbers to meet federal standards in 1974. Obviously the 240z is purer and lighter, 'cause it wasn't subjected to the same laws when it was designed and built. On the other hand, a 5-10 mph hit will badly damage a 240z, while a 280z or zx might get away with no damage at all.

I personally like the first generation body design the most, but I also like t-tops and turbochargers. There isn't a Z car I don't like, except maybe the 2+2 models of 70-83. Oh yeah, vinyl tops are ugly as sin.
 

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<b>RE: 280Z or ZX</b>

Hey Rob, The point I was trying to make is that it should have been a comparison of the 240Z and 280Z. Comparison of the 240Z agaist the 280ZX is like comparing a 68'shelby coupe against a 99' 4.6 liter...point being, why bother?
 

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RE: 280Z or ZX

The comparison of the 240Z vs the 280ZX isn't nearly as far out as the shebly vs GT. The Z's both have nearly identical drivetrains, independent suspensions, and close chassis. It's actually an interesting match-up to see if the "improvements" that Nissan made over the years were effective. Considering that the biggest changes were styling, electronics (modernization), and rear suspension design, it has more merit than the 240 vs 280 which is just basically weight and carbs vs FI.
 
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