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70 240Z or 71 240Z?

Just acquired a 240Z last week and have been trying to figure out what I really have.
Production plate inside drivers door says 12/70.
Is it a 70 or a 71?
Also, according to previous owner, he converted it from an automatic to a 5 speed. Has tremendous amounts of noise coming from tranny and/or R180 rear end, which is apparently has different gearing than a R180 from a 4 or 5 speed?
Anyways, does anyone know of a good shop near Westchester County NY?
Thanks!

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I't s a 71.
Like today, dealers called late year vehicles by the next model year to make it seem like you're getting something newer.
Mine's 11/70 and considered a 71.
It's really ridiculous now, I have a 15 Forester I bought in June 14.

Nov 70 late series one HLS3014777 Sunshine Yellow 919

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My 12/70 (edited) build 240Z is registered as a '71. The register date was based on when it was sold. I have owned British cars that were actually built several years before they were registered. The introduction of smog requirements forced the issue of model years to be more defined.

12/70 build 240Z

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My 11/70 is a 1971 also. It is a "Series 1" with the 240Z emblems on the pillars and the two grilles behind the hatchback glass.

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My 11/70 is a 1971 also. It is a "Series 1" with the 240Z emblems on the pillars and the two grilles behind the hatchback glass.
Same as mine what's the VIN?

Nov 70 late series one HLS3014777 Sunshine Yellow 919
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My build date is actually 12/70. I made a typo in my reply. VIN is 16502.

12/70 build 240Z
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same as mine what's the vin?
13021

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Nissan running production changes traditionally occurred in June on domestic models. Since 67 FMVSS the requirement was that September was the beginning of the new model year (though introduction usually happened in June even in the USA)

Anything produced after 9/XX is, in the North American Market, classified as the next "MODEL Year"

EXCEPT in 1974, when DOT & EPA did not jibe, because emissions legislation was technically on calendar year and not MODEL year. (hence the plate stating "in conformance at time of manufacture)

This is why you can have Carburetted 1975 260Z's (produced from 9/74-12/74) as well as EFI 1975 280Z's.

If you look at the January 1975 Nissan Lineup Sales Brochure, the Z's all have their Emblems airbrushed off and the spec lists BOTH 1975 260 Z's and 1975 280Z's!

Federally, anything after 9/1/74 was 1975 MODEL year, but only needed to comply with 1974 MODEL year specs as emissions were CALENDAR YEAR based. (This was rectified in subsequent years so it didn't happen again.)

In most countries, including Japan the "Year of Registration" bears absolutely NO correlation on a production date.

If you take a U.S. model 240Z back to Japan it's registered identically as a new car with three year initial registration and all the perks.

But like always you give Nissan "Series" (S30....there is no "Series 1, Series 2, blah blah blah...sorry!) and Serial Number and they will look in their data base for production year and month, and determine the parts necessary for the vehicle. You say "Series 1" and they will just look at you...or check for Z Information on Hesei 1 (1990)....

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"Model Years" is a North American anomaly only...nobody else in the world uses it. They use "Production" years to identify the build, with Registration completely separate.

In UK, he'll, you can legally do a VIN swap to another chassis as long as "3 of 5 major components" are fans ferried from the original vehicle. There is brisk business in Mini Cooper Body Shells sans-VIN, just waiting for the driveline and suspension swap that rebirths that old VIN in a new body!

In the USA it was SAFETY STANDARDS concurrent that dictated the use of "model years" starting in September.... So the whiny big three could "use up stock" over that "buildout period" before using the new parts. The emissions regs went by calendar year and continued to for over 8 years after the 67 FMVSS came into existence. I owned 66 Toyotas that were sold as 67's after having retrofit seat belt and marker light kits installed.

And my 60 Corvair has "Seat Belts Provided by AAA California for driving safety!"

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