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Key turning in ignition on '81 280 ZXT is getting funky. The key has to be worked in and out in order to turn the cylinder, and can be pulled completely out of the ignition in any position, running or not. I must repair this before I get stranded somewhere, but I know even less about keys & locks than I do about electrical.
Research indicates:
a) it is a 6 tumbler mechanism (can you confirm?)
b) it could be a job that is a pain to the lower extremeties (you need not confirm).

Can I get away with buying just a new lock cylinder?
If so, can it be re-keyed to my original key pattern so I can maintain the one-key-fits-all scheme?

I suspect the above is true, but welcome your experienced comments. Thanks.
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most any competent locksmith (hint not Home Depot) can repair it. take the ignition apart and just bring in the lock cylinder to save money. if you have the key number it is helpful. Cutting a new key to the number may be all you need.

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I"ve been building Datsun locks for about 20 years. The lock is worn out and needs a new core. Pulling the old core out isn't an easy thing to do for most people so I'd recommend against it. Even most locksmiths theses days can't handle it on these cars. About 1/3 of the locks that I run into have been buggered by someone before me and I can't fix them because the housings have been damaged. Even then, there are 2 styles of keyways, X6 and X7. X6 cores are no longer available so no one can rebuild them, not even myself. X7's I can still do and usually have the cores in stock for both the ignitions, and the doors. I also sell new locks and can rekey them in most cases if necessary. If you want to know which keyway you have just lay the key down flat, take a clear pic of it and send it to me. I can tell you which one you have easily from a pic. If the key is worn out, you can bet that the lock is as well. I sell new ignition lock assym's with X7 keyways for 154.95 and the zcar.com price is 139.95. If your car has the X7 keyway I can recode the new lock to fit your original key cut. To do that you would HAVE to get a new code key cut by a locksmith first. I don't have the machine to do that. Originally that code was on a white tag on the inside of the glove box door.
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I"ve been building Datsun locks for about 20 years. The lock is worn out and needs a new core. Pulling the old core out isn't an easy thing to do for most people so I'd recommend against it. Even most locksmiths theses days can't handle it on these cars. About 1/3 of the locks that I run into have been buggered by someone before me and I can't fix them because the housings have been damaged. Even then, there are 2 styles of keyways, X6 and X7. X6 cores are no longer available so no one can rebuild them, not even myself. X7's I can still do and usually have the cores in stock for both the ignitions, and the doors. I also sell new locks and can rekey them in most cases if necessary. If you want to know which keyway you have just lay the key down flat, take a clear pic of it and send it to me. I can tell you which one you have easily from a pic. If the key is worn out, you can bet that the lock is as well. I sell new ignition lock assym's with X7 keyways for 154.95 and the zcar.com price is 139.95. If your car has the X7 keyway I can recode the new lock to fit your original key cut. To do that you would HAVE to get a new code key cut by a locksmith first. I don't have the machine to do that. Originally that code was on a white tag on the inside of the glove box door.
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Thanks. I'll take a look inside the glove box today.
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Took that look. White tag long gone but I did find the original window sticker. Would it be on there? Any other sources to get the code?
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Not good focus but here are my keys...the silver one was cut from the brass one, the latter being the (not original) key that came with the car when purchased.
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most any competent locksmith (hint not Home Depot) can repair it. take the ignition apart and just bring in the lock cylinder to save money. if you have the key number it is helpful. Cutting a new key to the number may be all you need.
Yeah Locksmith can repair the lock cylinder and save your bucks. But this is only possible if you timely allow them to repair it.I have problem with front door lock and i have called locksmith to repair it.They have charged $70 for all work and the dealer cost is around $350 for the same work.
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most any competent locksmith (hint not Home Depot) can repair it. take the ignition apart and just bring in the lock cylinder to save money. if you have the key number it is helpful. Cutting a new key to the number may be all you need.
Key no is always helpful because from that you can make a new key. Also lock cylinder can't be repaired by own so help is need by a Locksmith to repair it.
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Good Lord it is not rocket science. First if you had the code, the dealer would still have to have the book of codes which gave them another code to look up. Ask how I know. I think most of them threw it away.

When I got the black Z it was mismatched with 2 different keys. I pulled the ignition and both doors and reketed them to the same key as the white Z. Ahhh but here is the rub. The white key had Left Hand keys and the black had white hand keys. So I had to find locks from a junk yard that was the same direction. The one I havent done yet is the hatch. I really buggered it up getting it apart to get to the tumblers. I built my ignition to be able to pull the key whenever I wanted. I also built in a kill switch that cuts out the ign module.

You should be able to do all this for about $20. If you cant swap pins around...you may have to grind some. The tough part about getting the ign out is they put it in with shear screws. Sometimes you luck out and one still has the head on it. otherwise drill it out. usually just starting it is enough to back it out if your drill is reversible

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