"cash for clunkers" failing?
Just thought I would post this cause it mentions "any car with T-tops" LOL
He wants to return cool cars to the streets like cars with T-Tops, COOOL. Where there any Zcars made that would even qualify for cash for clunkers?
I agree with the likes of Norm and TonyD with plans like this.
I also see people on this site who I can't believe they own Zcars, sound like they should own Prius's. They know who they are. They like plans like this and mandated higher fuel economy and higher fuel taxes, cap and trade and the whole global warming now changed to global climate change since global warning isn't happening as they said it would .
It's all about control of the individual(Take freedom away act of 1984, I mean 2009). I bet the fur will fly because of my statement, good. I'd probably say more but the Vicodin I'm on makes me happy, like sunshine on a cloudy day happy,la.la.,la,la,la. so happy
The law deosn't state T-tops can't be traded in. The author just put that in for a joke saying someone should be posted at all dealerships to keep anyone from trading in a t-top equipped car.
And yes WI280ZX the 80's 300zx turbo models would qualify as they got a combined 18 mpg.
Yeah, I've thought about it, and this is a dumb bill. It is just so the politicians can feel like they are doing something! I doubt it will have much of an effect. They should have specified certain vehicles that could not be turned in due to their coolness factor! Like the z31 and old rx-7s! I would hate to see good examples get crushed. They should at least just go to a wrecker and be parted out!
Actually, this bill is more likely trying to get older cars (read: without black boxes) off the street.
The authorities LIKE the fact that after an accident involving a new car, they can just call up the info off the back box and tell how fast you were going, wether or not there was a passenger, if you both had seatbelts. Put that together with the NAVI systems in cars or aftermarket and FAST LANE E-PASSES, and they can learn an awful lot about you with very little effort.
Remembr when they HAD to recover the black boxes after an air crash? Well, now those boxes transmit all that info. You can rad about that in some of the articles about the recent AirFrance loss near Brazil. How long before the black boxes, already found in new cars today, are capable of transmitting your every driving move to the Registry of Motor Vehicles or Police Station?
Just wait, but not for long. It's only right around the corner.
boZton Wrote:
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> ...if you both had seatbelts.
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Hot babes more satisfyings, yes?
> DEMOCRATIC
He who thinks the world is divided into two parties that he can label is not that wise.
No Yorgo that old car is older than 25 years and therefore does not qualify!
And Bozton you are exactly right. One day old cars will be outlawed for daily driving........and it will all be in the interest of saving "mother earth" and "the children" I f'ing HATE what this country has become!
Meanwhile countries that won't have to compete with self-imposed strangling legislation such as MO'bama's new "Climate Bill," will leave the US in the proverbial dust.
If this tard goes 8 years, look for strangling legislation on owning classic cars that will make it almost impossible to do so.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124602039232560485.html?mod=rss_com_mostcommentart
Just another step in sealing this countries DOOM!!
Laugh all you want but it is a master plan to bring the US down to it's knees.
The next major step will be to disarm all Americans. Make the choice now as to whether you are willing to FIGHT and possibly DIE for your rights, because that decision is coming.
Hell it wouldn't surprise me if someone in the government paid Michael Jackson's Doctor to purposely OD him on Demerol in order to distract Americans from the most HEINOUS piece of legislation AGAINST AMERICAN INTERESTS since the founding of our nation!
Yeah it sounds crazy, but our EVIL GOVERNMENT has a history of SCREWING OVER the American Public!!!
The climate change bill just passed, we are screwed. $5.00 a gallon gas is how they will make us buy little crapy cars we don't want. It will cost a fortune to drive a Z. Shame on the crooks in DC and those who support them with the biggest lie ever.
Good-by more jobs.
Ya know we almost impeach a man for getting his knob slobbed... Criticize a man for fighting terrorists that killed innocent Americans on our soil... Yet a retard driving our country into the ground faster than we can realize is praised by half this country based solely on the color of his skin and his 'willingness' to bring 'Change.'
Yup Yeti you nailed that one. The Main Stream Media are all IN THE HIP POCKET of "THE ONE"
I thought we did impeach a man for lying about getting his knob slobbed. Then we should be able to impeach for ruining our country in six months.
He wasn't impeached for getting his knob gobbled, he was impeached for LYING to a Grand Jury about getting his knob gobbled during an ongoing sexual assault case/ investigation. As an attorney, he should have known better than to lie to them.
One thing you don't do is lie to a Grand Jury. Better off sayin' nothin'.
NORM
Demerol? I heard that Michael Jackson did NOT OD on Demerol...I heard it was food poinsoning. From eating 12 year-old nuts.
boZton Wrote:
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> NORM
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> Demerol? I heard that Michael Jackson did NOT OD
> on Demerol...I heard it was food poinsoning. From
> eating 12 year-old nuts.
HAHAHAHAHA! BURN!
Remember guys he was AQUITTED.
people falsely accuse people to extort money from them all of the time.
He was a man child so I can see him sleeping with boys in the same bed but not engaging in sexual activity. If any normal typical man slept with boys I would agree he was an F'ing pervert, but Michael was a little eccentric.
norm, norm, slow down. You're going to 'splode when you reach hit the bottom of the abyss.
WI280ZX, you think the beginning of the end started just six months ago? The end could have come three months ago if something wasn't done. The problem required a band-aid to stave off further infection. Got to give it some time. The cure isn't final yet and may not be for some time. Consumers aren't going to start spending with abandon (or without) until the bankers unpucker their self-induced scared butts and start getting back in the economic game.
I used to enjoy browsing this forum. Once.
"I used to enjoy browsing this forum. Once."
Wow no one makes you read these threads ya know.
How bout just ignoring posts that you already know you won't agree with.
that the pres. institutes an automatic castration law so that idiots can't reproduce anymore... I'm getting tired of this.
Dumbestone, the beginning of this started in 2006, congress went far left The housing loan bs was first. Cap and Trade will finish us off. The whole goal is for control of all energy use. With the government making the calls for you and me. Good-bye freedom, hello 1984.
Maybe we are getting out of control on this thread, but I see what is happening and it WILL have a negative effect on my life, pocketbook and my hobby of older Zcars. Gas will become very expensive, and gas is what my 280ZX Turbo runs on. And this site is dedicated to the GAS powered Zcar, most of us have older models.
Buying a new green Zcar if one ever exist will not be a option for me, I could never use one as a daily driver in my job and couldn't afford a 35K or more toy car. Besides, many of us with older Zcars love our cars for what they are and really have no interest in the new ones.
Again, I thought this was a Zcar enthusiasts web site, where we want to preserve our cars and above all DRIVE them. Well my 79 and 83 won't run on wind power and $5.00 a gallon gas means they won't run much at all.
And who doesn't want us drilling for more oil? All my rants are based on the fact that they are attacking what I thought we ALL like on this web site our beloved Zcars, from 1970 to 2009.
Dumbestone, that's a interesting profile name by the way, can't you see how this is going to effect all of us Zcars owners in a bad way, let alone anyone who thinks the government is out of control, please dumbestone tell me how what is happening will help us with enjoying our cars, I'd like to know.
Long live the Zcar, but lets save the country first from this socialist, far left power grab. Don't you see, they HATE our cars and all cars because cars are freedom to go where you want, when you want. Can't you see this? If people can't see what is going on, we are screwed and just kiss our Zcars good buy.
Z1 ZONLY and others, norm(The 12 sec Dual SU Dude) and others like TonyD are passionate about what is happening with this country. We need more people like them, they obviously want the country and the Zcar to live on and they speak eloquently and forcefully about what they believe. Free speach is for all, at least for awhile. I don't need to defend them they as they speak for themselves, and do so well. This IS the correct forum for this as it affects all of us with Zcars. If you can't see what is going on and how this will affect us with our Zcars, we are doomed as a group, kiss the Zcar, Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, and others good-by.
Wow no one makes you read these threads ya know.
How bout just ignoring posts that you already know you won't agree with.
Thanks for that. I'll start anticipating that posts about engine pulls will turn into chicken-sh*t flame wars, AC Delco plugs being assembled from NGK parts will turn into epic world trade bickering, and an informative article about Cash for Clunkers will deviate into extremist right-wing chanting and ridiculous notions that the government killed Michael Jackson.
WI280ZX Wrote:
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> The climate change bill just passed,
Not yet:
"But the legislation deeply divided US politicians, businesses and even climate groups. The outcome of the House vote was uncertain to the very last minute: Only eight Republicans voted in favour and 43 Democrats voted against the measure.
The bill now moves to the Senate, which could have an even tougher time getting the measure passed. Groups on both sides have also vowed to continue pushing for changes as the legislation makes its way through the US Congress."
If the Repubs will get their crap together, we can limit the damage the demos are doing. If we can hang on long enough, we can vote some of these jackasses out in the next congressional elections to get the power checks back into place. Right now, it's dangerous.
Route66, I hope you are right, but the senate has gone far left also. Add in a few GOP defectors and wham, it's law
Z1 ZONLY Wrote:
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> Wow no one makes you read these threads ya know.
>
> How bout just ignoring posts that you already know
> you won't agree with.
>
> Thanks for that. I'll start anticipating that
> posts about engine pulls will turn into
> chicken-sh*t flame wars, AC Delco plugs being
> assembled from NGK parts will turn into epic world
> trade bickering, and an informative article about
> Cash for Clunkers will deviate into extremist
> right-wing chanting and ridiculous notions that
> the government killed Michael Jackson.
Yup, same here. I don't mind the occasional political banter, but this has gotten ridiculous.
It is STUPIDEST LEGISLATION EVER created!!
If you car gets 18 mpg you can get up to a $4500 coupon however if it gets 19 mpg you get ZIP!!
What kind of stupids shte is that?? DEMOCRATIC SHITE thats what kind of stupid shite it is!!
I mean the whole program is a government boondoggle, but at the very least they could have built the program upon a graduated basis where you get $500 for trading a car that get 25 mpg and then $500 more for every other mpg. But to just say NO if you get 19 vs. 18 would only be concievable in the mind of a BRAINDEAD DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN'S eyes!!
Can't wait til the Democrats "FIX" healthcare!! ugh
Houston we have a problem