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"You probably do not use cheap walmart oil in your car and I bet a lot of other folks here don't either...."
I certainly do, and have a case at any one time of 30wt and 40wt in my lubrication cabinet.
The Wal Mart oil is EXACTLY the same product in another major manufacturer's bottle, so you have to downgrade that MAINSTREAM oil brand as well. Like I said, your statement is based on no research.
WalMart's Antifreeze is current-production PRESTONE. The same stuff in the Yellow Jug. Same plant of manufacture, same run codes on the bottles, same batch numbers on the bottles.
Same as for their oil.
Wal Mart doesn't make a **** thing, they BUY product from other manufacturer's inventories. I'm not revealing the oil manufacturer, but anybody in ther right mind can look at the bottle read the codes, and then interpolate if they take half an hour looking for a matching batch code on another manufacturer's bottle.
Then it's just a matter of some phone calls to friends at refineries to find out if you are correct.
But go ahead, pay $1.54 a quart for oil you can buy for .78.....
That colored bottle is REALLY worth it!
Apparently you missed what the purpose of oil is, and why additives are unrequired in passenger cars.
Try this: There have been many studies, and to a one, they all debunk the additive myth in passenger vehicles. They simply don't have the loads required EVER to justify the addition of additives.
Matter of fact, Mobil will VOID your warranty for adding ADULTERANTS to their proprietary additive package.
Same as Oil Filters, Fram exists on MARKETING AND PAST REPUTATION (same as STP), made when standards were lower and competition less intense.
I was responsible for procurement of (on average) over 5000 gallons of petroleum lubricating oil per annum, and when you see the marketing ploys the manufacturer's try, you become very cynical. Then go to a few lubrication seminars and talk with petroleum engineers, as well as consult with people in the business at a non-marketing level, and you quickly realize the standards oils are required to meet today negate adulterants and package boosters when dealing with long-term engine wear.
It's simply cheaper to decrease the change intervals. Plain and simple.
Matter of fact at training this past week, I was sitting in front of a Petroleum Engineer who was discussing these very same subjects with another classmate in regards to our Polyalkylene Glycol Oil/Coolant specified for our machinery, and oils relating to automotive applications. Find a Petro Engineer and ask him this question firsthand, and watch his reaction!
As to your case: no, you don't need them. You are probably overbuying the oil as it is, you don't need synthetic in the L-Engine, especially in a Street Car.
And as far as not knocking anyone's product, that's exactly what you did with your first comment! And I stand by everything I have said in that regard. I realize your statement was made on a generic ignorance of the product, but please don't persist in that stance. The fact you made it is a testament to my subject line: Marketing. You are taken in by it, and are making derragatory statements based on it, without any knowledge in-depth at all.
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